Mason's Mom....I'm sorry it went so poorly with your meeting. I don't understand either why they want to move forward with an IEP unless they plan to discuss placement again.
I wish I could be of some help...I really do. There are no free advocates in your area either? Have you tried calling your state's Dept. of Education? They too may be able to point you towards someone or even low-cost or free lawyers like skyler (wisely) pointed out...that's how I found our advocate.
Have you sent letters up the chain yet? Director of Special Ed, AND copy Region Superintendent, State Superintendent....they too may force a resolution.
Good luck....trust your gut.
This is really sad and unfortunate. IMO it doesn't really matter what she did or didn't do or whether there is a right and wrong in all this. She has failed to win your confidnece in her ability to care for your son and your son doesn't respond well to her. That's the bottom line. It doesn't matter how qualified, in theory, she is to teach him, in practice you are far from comfortable with her and that should be enough reason to provide you with a suitable alternative. I wasted a year of my sons life in a pre-skool he disliked - I now belive this was because his teacher disliked him (possibly for rejecting her), I can't forgive myself for that, for not taking him out - I've said that before... I listened to the explanations of why he was 'anti' instead of using my common sense. He made zero progress there and I left him in the damn place for nearly a year- Anyway - well done for taking a stand and making the effort to get him the care he deserves.
I dont understand what the big deal is abt moving your son to a different teacher????Is this teacher the only K teacher? Is your son in a spec ed K class?I dont understand what their big deal is? To me it sounds so simple for them to just put your son in with another teacher??
Why are they having such a problem with this???
Baileys K teacher wa sthe same way-never admitting her fault in anything. So coem the next year when requests were mailed to ask for specific teachers my letter was kind of different. I requested that my next Daughter NOT be in this certain teachers classroom. We met together and like in your situation everyone got really defensive. I finally just told them that I know they have qualified teachers-as the principle was admandt abt siding with all his staff just as Wray has said too, I told them it was just a personality conflict and would rather not throw another log on the fire this next year with my next child. The meeting was ended and there were no problems. So I dont understand why they just wont transfer your son to another teacher????
It sounds like you are going to have to go to mediation just for the sake of such a simple thing-that they dont want to loose face -so they are willing to put up such a stink-I just have no understanding on this AT ALL? It MUST be soooo completely frustrating.
I know you are doing the right thing. I think it says alot, and it should say alot to them too, if you are willing to go to mediation on this. THey know they will have to do something. Dont listen to that director-they cant place your child ANYWHERE that you dont want them to. She's basically trying to threaten you and scare you-this is what that comment sounds to me. What a bunch of garbage. How can she say "Well WE might come to the conclusion that this is the best for him" when YOU are apart of the WE ??????Absolutely rediculous!!!You are just as important to the TEAM as THEY are!!!
Stay strong MasonsMom-you ARE doing the right thing here!!!!They are sooo clearly in the wrong!!!
Love ya,
Tammy
Mediation definitely sounds like the way to go. It may end up that the mediator thinks the incident was not serious enough to go your way, though. You may need a lawyer to take this to a hearing. IMHO, based on what I've read about how cases go in hearings, yours will be thrown out. The hearing officer might even decide that your hearing was frivolous and rule that you owe the District their lawyers' fees (which can be SUBSTANTIAL). This is a new wrinkle that the US Supreme Court has recently ruled on. We parents are not safe in taking Districts to hearings. We can be held liable. SO get the advice of a lawyer. I would do that now. BEFORE mediation. It would be worth the cost of one hour of a lawyer's time. It might safe you tons of money in the long run, not to mention grief. A good advocate or lawyer might be able to head off any legal actions before they rise to the point that you will regret.CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
Good job sticking to your guns and seeing this through. I'm thrilled it all worked out for you, and hope that this new placement works well for Mason. ABA is a great tool, but Life Skills are LIFE SKILLS...Not everything can be improved with ABA, in my opinion. Give yourself a big pat on the back...BRAVO!!! Here's the list:
You've given hope to us, through all your frustration, and going against the tides...you are an inspiration I'm sure, to many that are doing that battle inside of deciding what is best for our children.
I hope Mason has a great year!!!!!
Lucky me the second choice mediator we shared was available. Since we already had an IEP and re eval scheduled for yesterday after talking with a wonderful mediator at length on Sunday.....he set up a meeting between myself and the Sped Director yesterday morning prior to the IEP meeting.
I explained to him at length what my issue was, and that I didn't feel it was too much to as the SD to find an appropriate alternative placement for my son since I was sooo uncomfortable with the other teacher. I told him things I wanted to ask for, but was afraid wouldn't be realistic....like and aide he already knows and loves to go with him to be his personal aide...I jdon't have any clue about budget or regualtions for this kind of thing here.....
How about the director showed up yesterday and said she had a teacher and principal from another school coming where she thinks we could end up deciding is a good choice at the IEP. She also suggested giving Mason his own aide.
I got everything I wanted. I am still slightly concerned that I am moving him from an ABA focused class to a Life Skills class, but he will still have some ABA and I think it is worth giving it a shot. I am pretty darn happy with the outcome.
It took 2 months, but I got what I wanted. Thanks for your well wishes and information...it helped get me through!
ba dum bumpIts sad to hear that his teachers were bullying him about the toys and outbursts and them being unprofessional with him when he was upset.
I know this may not be the same thing but I used to work at a place that exclusively employed adults with all kinds of disabilities Mental retardation,Autism you name it. They were always so kind and nice and so happy but the supervisors there were really mean to many of them. one person i knew had a bad night at home and was having a hard time this woman (supervisor) started picking on him and he sad he was going to run away from home she very coldly replies
"What are you going to do go join the circus" Its upsetting when people who are supposed to know how to help people become unprofessional and chose not to.
I think the aide is a nice idea i had an aide to help me through high school and middle school and me and her got along great and became very good freinds I also have an IEP going where the school vans drive me to work in the morning then next year ill have to start taking a bus.
We have the next IEP on Tues. They still refuse to even discuss any other placement, but I am standing firm that he will not be sent back to that classroom. I feel that the IEP will be a battle. I am going to see if I can get "From emotion to advocacy" other than online, so that I can absorb it prior to this meeting.
I am exhausted from it all.
For the record Wray, I also told them that it was a shame that they had to be so defensive. That had they just come tome with an apology and admittance not of abuse but of hadling the situation improperly, I would be more willing to move forward. I told them I wasn't cetain that if they weren't so defensive and worried about legal reprocussions, that they wouldn't agree that incident never should have happened. I was very clear that if they felt that what happened was appropriate teacher behavior, then I could never feel safe with him in that environment.
Are you going to mediation? I don't understand what the purpose of the IEP meeting is? To change him to another teacher? Another school? GIve them 24 hours notice that you intend to tape record the meeting. Tape record ALL the meetings from now on. Even the ones that aren't contentious. Also, don't simply ASSUME you can't afford an attorney. Many do pro bono work or work out a payment plan. I will look up the advocates and lawyers in your area on my advocacy website and post the list here.
KATHY BENNETT (Advocate)
ASK ADVOCATING SOLUTIONS FOR KIDS
1419 KINGS HWY
DALLAS, TX 75208
Phone: 2147936352
Email: spike.kathy@earthlink.net
Website: http://www.askadvocate.org
MARTIN J. CIRKIEL, ESQ. (Attorney)
CIRKIEL AND ASSOCIATES, O.C.
1901 E. PALM VALLEY BLVD.
ROUND ROCK, TX 78634
Phone: 512 244 6658
Fax: 512-244-6014
Email: marty@cirkielaw.com
Website: www.cirkielaw.com
ROSE MARIE CRUZ (Advocate)
108 NORMAN DRIVE
LAREDO, TX 78045
Phone: 956-728-9907
Email: learningquest@sbcglobal.net
Website: www.rosemariecruz.com
SUSAN FELLER HEILIGENTHAL (Attorney)
STUDENT ATTORNEY
6805 CYPRESS POINT NORTH
AUSTIN, TX 78746
Phone: 512-585-1576
Email: studentslawyer@sbcglobal.net
Mr. MATTHEW L. FINCH (Attorney)
THE LAW OFFICES OF MATTHEW L. FINCH, P. C.
123 SOUTH FLORES
SAN ANTONIO, TX 78204
Phone: 210-223-1123
Fax: 210-223-7455
Email: finchlaw@aol.com
Website: http://www.mfinchlaw.com
LOUIS H. GEIGERMAN (Advocate)
NATIONAL ARD/IEP ADVOCATES
P.O. BOX 16111
SUGAR LAND, TX 77496-6111
Phone: 281 265 1506
Email: louisadvo@mylinuxisp.com
Website: http://www.narda.org
TONYA HETTLER (Advocate)
TX FFCMH
7003 E FM 1294
IDALOU, TX 793296152
Phone: 806-239-2839
Email: thettler@earthlink.net
Website: http://www.txffcmh.org
LOLALEE E. LIVINGSTON (Advocate)
LOLALEE E. LIVINGSTON & CO., LLC
2809 REGAL RD SUITE 103
PLANO, TX 75075
Phone: 972-758-9123
Fax: 972-964-8906
Email: lolalee.livingston@letseducate.org
Website: www.letseducate.org
DR. WILLIAM ROBB (Advocate)
2206 HEADS LN . STE. 110
CARROLLTON, TX 75006
Phone: 214 390-1749
Email: newfoundinc@aol.com
MELANIE B. WATSON (Advocate)
MEET THE PARENTS
501 TROPHY LAKE DR #314-114
TROPHY CLUB, TX 76262
Phone: 817-707-9093
Email: melanie@meettheparents.org
Website: http://www.meettheparents.org
ALLISON WOODS (Advocate)
322 BROOKS ST
SUGAR LAND, TX 77478
Phone: 281-240-0663
Fax: 281-240-9133
Email: awoods@asdfocus.com
Website: http://www.asdfocus.com
MARILOU WRIGHT (Advocate)
1603 GARFIELD
WICHITA FALLS, TX 76309
Phone: 940-723-2818
Email: mjwrightMJ@netscape.net
MasonsMom,
Since in the same classroom isnt an option for you-what is the school suggesting? Have you researched what else is out there?
I know how you are feeling-I was at this stage awhile back with my sons school-not trusting anyone...Its a lonely place to be. You feel you are all alone and they just keep pushing you down so to speak...I sooo know how you are feeling......
What helped me was to get some letters going-that way they know you mean business. That way it wasnt just me being bombed in a meeting-my emotions didnt get in the way and I could rationalise everything. My letter went to the spec ed director and I got an apoligy letter and a "we will make it right" deal now :)
This is what I think you should do-it will get their attention and they will then HAVE to figure something out. I think you could just say something like you feel it is a safety issue etc, and you as a parent do not feel comforteable with this teacher etc. Tell them you are willing to work with them in helping them figure out an alternative-kwim? Tell them you would appreciate their response back in writting....
Do you have any type of Disability Center or Parent Center in your state-they dont have to be near you. I had no idea until I looked them up online. They have been advising me and that way I at least know that the law is on my side alot of the times. I hav enever even met the people, yet they have been suggesting thinsg and have been extremelly helpful when i dont knwo where else to turn.
Try and find somthing online like that.
Dont give up fighting for your child MasonsMom-you know in your gut that what you saw was wrong. Let that Momma bear come out-but do it in a way that will GET their attention. Hang in there-it will get better-Im proof that a disasterous situation can turning ard :)
Good luck and keep us posted.
Love ya,
Tammy
Mason's Mom- I am so sorry that you are going through this and still haven't come to a resolution with the school. I know you are frustrated for what you saw and the position your son was put in. I can only imagine how horrifid you were walking in and seeing your son being treated that way. I am hurting for you and Mason that there can't be a "fix" so that he can get back in school. I am going to tell you somethings, speaking from a teacher's point of view. BUT, I am in no way implying that I think you are wrong or should just give it up. I do think, however, that in order for you to come to terms as to why the school won't admit you saw something wrong being done, you are going to have to accept some "unofficial, unspoken school/teacher rules." Again, I'm not saying accept them and put your son back in the classroom. You have stood your ground and demanded a new placement and it looks like you are probably going to get that.
I have witnessed this same situation happen to a co-worker before, now i wasn't in the situation so I couldn't comment on what happened or didn't happen. But I do know that school officials questioned everybody in the class (aides) at the time the parent said this happened. They also questioned the teacher and heard what the parent had to say. The school determined that what the parent saw was simply not what was happening. It was taken out of context by the parent. If this school stands up and even so much as hints that they think this teacher did something wrong, then the school has the responsibility of fixing that problem and repremanding the teacher. I am not saying I don't think the teacher did something wrong, but in the school's eyes she didn't and they will never, ever wavier from that thinking. They can't let on that she did something wrong, but continue to leave kids in her care. I believe this is why you are getting the run around about the teacher's actions from everybody at the school. This is why nobody's is owning up to the fact that maybe what you saw was not the best behavior for a teacher or para pro. But if they admit they think that, a whole new can of worms opens up for the school system.
I do think it's wrong that a school, any school, would rather protect it's image than it's children. But they have obviously decided to stand beside this teacher and claim she did nothing wrong, period, bottom line. Instead of dwelling on the fact that you saw your son being bullied and the school not accepting that, forget about it. Forget about that teacher, write her off, stand your ground and continue to demand a new placement. Stop putting your energy and attention on this teacher and what she did and not owning up to it and spend that time and energy getting him a new placement.
I've not come accross this situation before. In the situation I witnessed, the system met with the parents and discussed the findings of talking with the teacher and the pare pros and their side of the story. The teacher was given some guidelines to follow in the future should she come accross that same behavior and how she would handle it, and the child returned to the classroom. I don't know what happens when parent continues to demand a new placement and not send their child to a particular class. But I'll guess we'll find out because that is what you are going to do. Continue to advocate for your son and his safe placement. They have to provide something. They can't MAKE you send him somewhere you don't want to.
Did you ever write a letter asking for home bound services until this matter is resolved. Because they haven't resolved this and his is still out of school, the system is liable for providing his services anyway. You need to send them a letter tomorrow stating that he has missed X amount of days and you expected it to be resolved before now. You are seeing that it is taking longer than you first expected and you are requesting home bound services for Mason until he can return to school. They have to do this so fight for that to. You are letting them get away with his education.
Keep us updated!!!
So I agreed to meet with members of the school district to see how Mason could potentially be placed back into he classroom where I removed him from.